West Fife pensioner's fury at hospital parking fine

Published: 4 Mar 2011 08:1529 comments

"PEOPLE don't go to the hospital for a frivolous reason. You don't go up there for fun."

A WEST FIFE pensioner has blasted parking congestion at Queen Margaret Hospital after he was forced to leave his car on the pavement to make his vital appointment.

Alan Hay (75) was furious when he returned to his car after his appointment to find a parking ticket perched on his windshield.

Mr Hay, of Rose Wall, North Queensferry, claims he was left with no option but to park on the pavement after he found every space taken in the hospital's car parks.

He said, "I went right around the bottom car park and it was full.

"I went into the west car park, nothing, and people were parked all over the pavements.

"I then went into the top car park hoping somebody would pull out and nothing.

"I saw cars parked up on the pavement at the A&E and when I went into the second car park people were sitting in cars waiting for patients that were inside.

"I put car the right up on the pavement, there is double yellow lines I admit that, but I can't afford to miss my eye appointment as I have glaucoma.

"I was furious when I saw the parking ticket. It was ridiculous."

Mr Hay has had an operation on his right knee that means he sometimes has difficulty walking.

He fumed, "What have I got to do, say I can't find a car parking space so I'm going to have to cancel my appointment?

"People don't go to the hospital for a frivolous reason. You don't go up there for fun.

"On the wall it had something like 240 hours were wasted by appointments that weren't fulfilled.

"I thought I was doing them a favour by parking up on the pavement and therefore not blocking the bus route, which is very narrow.

"Somebody suggested to go along Robertson Road and park in the car park at the chemist but I couldn't walk that far. It's just not on."

An NHS Fife spokesperson said, "Since 2002, NHS Fife has created 229 new parking spaces at Queen Margaret Hospital.

"The hospital has become busier, as has the surrounding area with new housing and the Dunfermline Queen Margaret railway station.

"NHS Fife wants to continue to improve the parking position at Queen Margaret Hospital for all our neighbours and is keen to work with everyone involved, including Network Rail, Stagecoach, Fife Council, Fife police and local community council.

"NHS Fife also has a long-established travel plan designated to improve matters and is working through it, as funds permit.

"All roads into and through Queen Margaret Hospital have been adopted by Fife Council; they are governed by the same law that applies to all other public roads.

"Both Fife police and Fife traffic wardens patrol the site. Illegally parked vehicles disrupt the passage of ambulances and can force wheelchair users and pedestrians onto the road.

"NHS Fife does not condone parking offences and has no power to prevent parking wardens from enforcing the law on public roads."

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  • FlyFifer
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    Mar 4, 09:05
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    Yet another cop out from NHS Fife. Parking has been an issue for patients and staff for the last 5 years.







    They make more outpatient procedures and appointments at QMH due to its down grading but do and have done nothing to accommodate the extra parking requirements.







    Staff's safety is being put at risk due to having to park in dark streets or at the football pitches.







    Obviously it's not a concern for Managers with their cosy barriered car park.







    It's just wrong.

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  • montheducks
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    Mar 4, 10:23
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    Traffice wardens man fascist baskets i tell ye!

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  • Geedoch
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    Mar 4, 11:01
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    Poor Mr Hay...He has a free bus pass,live under 2 miles from the Free Parking Ferrytoll bus interchange..and at 75,has a few hours to spare to make a jouney to keep an appointment made for his benefit at a free NHS facility.



    How about that for a story....?

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  • PitcorthieMiss
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    Mar 4, 12:20
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    Geedoch, I couldn't agree more. How foolish does this 'story' make him look?







    "Hello is that the Press? This is furious Mr Hay here, I've just been given a parking ticket for illegally parking my car up at the hospital, and I want you to publish my complaint. What were those pesky traffic wardens thinking about, how dare they target my car which was parked on the pavement and on double yellow lines" Mr Hay fumed and fumed..........







    Before your next appointment, have a quick check of the Stagecoach website and use the local bus services (free of charge). Save us all a lot of hot air and non-stories

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  • Cyclops1
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    Mar 4, 14:38
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    Hope Mr Hay has notified DVLA that he has glaucoma as he needs eye test to continue driving. Perhaps this explains why he parked on a pavement with double yellow lines visible. I will inform DVLA on his behalf.

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  • friend of Hay
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    Mar 4, 15:10
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    God, you're a compassionate lot this week. Let's hope nene of you get old eh?

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  • winky pinkerton
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    Mar 4, 16:42
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    above are the children of the damned, where is the compassion you scots are famous for. elderly people should be shown more respect,you lot must have been dragged up out of a sewer, rubbish the lot of you.

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  • Cyclops1
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    Mar 4, 18:35
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    So elderly people should be allowed to break the law? Compassion should be shown where deserved. Anyone who describes someone as 'children of the damned' needs psychotherapy unless they are fanatic followers of the punk band ! Getting old does not mean you have the right to disobey laws.

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  • friend of hay
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    Mar 4, 19:21
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    What's the weather like up there on that high horse of yours psyclops?

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  • inmyopinion
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    Mar 4, 20:39
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    the yellow lines are there for a reason- I understand the gentlemans frustration at parking availability but surely he was already aware there could be an issue and arrived in plenty of time- not exactly a piece of ......... Breaking news.......

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  • PitcorthieMiss
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    Mar 4, 22:27
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    'FlyFifer', 'montheducks', 'friend of hay' & 'winky pinkerton', perhaps you could all enlighten us and tell us how you'd feel if:







    a) an emergency ambulance (containing you or a family member or a close friend) was delayed by this idiot's inconsiderate parking;







    b) someone was seriously injured by a passing vehicle after having to walk on the road because this idiot had parked on the pavement;







    c) a disabled person in a wheelchair could not get past this idiot's car parked on the pavement;







    The traffic wardens at the hospital should have the powers to arrange for the prompt towing away of any such vehicles as this 'story' reports.







    As with Cyclops1, the DVLA have indeed been duly notified about the glaucoma which this idiot has.

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  • Friend of Hay
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    Mar 5, 07:26
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    a) why would the ambulance be driving on the pavement in the first place?



    b) if the unlikely happened, where better placed to be?



    c) no different to the zillions of other cars parked on pavements around Dunfermline except without an excuse



    Towing away - what a great use of resources in these affluent times.



    What is this pick on pensioners cos the golfers are back?

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  • fat mama jefferson
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    Mar 5, 11:25
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    children of the damned, iron maiden

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  • billy b
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    Mar 6, 12:38
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    Well done the Traffic Wardens. It would nice if they booked the rest of the cars parked on the pavements of Dunfermline. I'm a pensioner, but I would never dream of taking a car where parking is at a premium. USE THE BUS. That's what you get a bus pass for.

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  • Jayc182
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    Mar 6, 21:17
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    I can share Mr Hay's frustration, as I was their two weeks ago and had to jam my wee fiat in the corner and wait and wait, and wait...... lol until someone made a space. Geedoch does makes a good point, however If it was himself in that situation he would be frustrated and angry to.







    But to be perfectly honest. A hospital is a place were we are treated for illness or injury, I personally believe it is NOT QMH's moral duty to provide people like Mr Hay with conveniant parking nearbye.







    The hospital should have metered parking in place, where a percentage of revenue goes into on-site infrastrucure and the remainder is injected back into the hospital.







    But as things stand, It is free, so Mr Hay has no moral right to complain when the money recently spent on the new 291 parking spaces could have been better spent on treatment and saving lifes!.







    I read somwhere "with age comes wisdom", surley Mr Hay is the exception to the rule.







    Jc

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  • Commonsensible
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    Mar 6, 22:06
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    Can I put another slant on this.







    This incident was seen by visitors from a hospital ward.







    This man was seen to park his car with care albeit on the pavement BUT it was on the inside of the double yellow lines. He was seen to take care in positioning his vehicle and did NOT cause any obstruction to ambulances or other vehicles what so ever. His car was NOT parked there for a long duration.







    Prior to this incident cars were seen to be booked for parking in the disabled bays without a displaying a disabled badges. And deservedly so.







    But...







    Fife council hit again on the Tuesday but this time on cars which were parked half on pavement half off bumper to bumper outside the lower car park. This car park was FULL. Two attendents were seen to systematically start from the roundabout downwards booking every car. Possibly more than 20 cars or more all in one sweep. It was sickening to watch. These cars were only parked there because the lower car parking facilities were full.......As per normal.



    There are many people who have to travel from East Fife to the Queen Margaret Hospital and don't know the area. What about them?







    Aren't these wardens needed elsewhere in Dunfermline?







    It beggars belief....

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  • Not Happy Jan
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    Mar 7, 00:26
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    Well done Fife Council. People cannot park where they like. Rules are Rules. The lower classes get free bus passes and everything else so they should be forced to use them.







    Somebody going for eye treatment should not be driving, indeed he should have his licence revoked.

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  • cotton eye joe
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    Mar 7, 14:06
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    Don't be so crass jan. People who are blind in one eye are permitted to drive. If you are going for a refit for a new glass eye, it does not stop your ability to drive safetly. Unlike yourself who clearly has brain damage coming out with moronic comments like that.

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  • PRESS READER
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    Mar 7, 14:38
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    WELL every time we go to hospital a q.m. . MY hubby has to drop me off then coming in while after .AFTER took him all his time waiting on a space .I member not toooo long ago the bit in the press and other local news papers they wanted folk to CAR SHARE AS THERE WAS TO MUCH TRAFFIC ON THE BRIDGE SO WHY CANT SOME OF THE NURSES AND PORTERS ETC ETC NOT DO THE SAME AND THEN WEE MIGHT HAVE A FEW SPACES FOR THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND THERE HOSPITAL APPOINMENTS .A MEMBER OF MY FAMILY DOES CAR SHAIRING GETS A LIFT FROM A FELLOW WORKER AT THE Q.M.H. SO IT CAN BE DONE .

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  • winky pinkerton
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    Mar 7, 21:33
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    re miserable jan . one must be a little foolish,if one does not want to be even more stupid.

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  • Not Happy Jan
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    Mar 7, 22:49
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    In my view if you only have one eye then you are vision impaired and should not be driving. Its ridiculous and the law should be changed.



    Public transport is plentiful and cheap I suggest you use it.



    If I had my way it would be very expensive to use a hospital car park. Hospitals are for the sick, not needy drivers!

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  • Moomin
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    Mar 7, 23:19
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    Why do these idiots think that that it's acceptable to park on a pavement? What about mobility scooters (probably his friends), wheelchair users and mothers with pushchairs. Should they by forced to walk in the road just so that this chap can have the convenience of parking near the hospital.







    I bet he's probably one of the folk that petitioned to get parking charges removed from hospital car parks.

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  • dave
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    Mar 8, 10:25
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    Since Mr Hay lives in North Queensferry, perhaps he should consider the advantage of driving to the Park and Ride (free parking) and using his bus pass to get to the hospital. And as a Senior Citizen who expects to be shown consideration he seems blissfully unaware of the consequences of his own lack of consideration for others in parking on the pavement. I do however agree that the parking problem at the hospital has become more severe in recent times, surely it is not beyond the capabilities of our highly paid managerial staff to provide a solution.



    Dave Cooper



    Rosyth

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  • Ben Dover
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    Mar 8, 11:36
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    I don't have any sympathy for Mr Hay, as mentioned above there is enough 'free' public transport available to him, so he had no need to take the car.



    Re. comments above regarding whether or not he should be driving due to his eye condition, he would have been assessed and passed fit to drive by his doctor and the DVLA, and as we do not know the full details, one is not qualified to pass judgement (Not Happy Jan take note).



    As for parking in and around the hospital, I agree wardens are doing a good job, although I would extend the double yellow lines to the full perimeter of the hospital, as I for one am sick of having to negotiate cars parked on blind corners while exit'ing junctions.

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  • Happy to help
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    Mar 10, 10:16
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    (fake) Press Release from NHS Fife....







    Due to the recent incident involving Mr Hay, NHS Fife has concluded that the only solution to the parking issues at Queen Margaret Hospital is to reduce the amount of clinics offered thereby reducing pressure on the hospital car parks. In future the only clinics that will be offered will be patients suffering from life-threatening conditions. Other clinics e.g. the Glaucoma clinic will be discontinued in the West Fife area and patients will have no further access to Specialists.







    Simples!

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  • JJfife
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    Mar 10, 16:54
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    I suspect a lot of places are being taken by Park and Ride passengers. How about a dedicated parking area for the use of patients, suitably barrier controlled, with egress controlled by a token supplied by the clinic and surrendered at the exit barrier. That way genuine patients can park easily and visitors must find alternative spaces.

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  • local resident
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    Mar 10, 18:47
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    I live near the hospital and see the traffic wardens in the area most weeks. If you the parking restrictions are strictly enforced now just wait until the private company takes over.







    It will be good not to have the people who think that parking restrictions do not apply to them wrecking the grass verges and parking on yellow lines.

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  • local resident
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    Mar 10, 18:50
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    I live near the hospital and see the traffic wardens in the area most weeks. If you think the parking restrictions are strictly enforced now just wait until the private company takes over.







    It will be good not to have the people who think that parking restrictions do not apply to them wrecking the grass verges and parking on yellow lines.

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  • Aff ma nut
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    Mar 14, 01:17
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    So your a pensioner and that makes it ok for you to break the law, nevermind just speed past the primary school on the way back home you inconsiderate fool, perhaps the next time you'll give yourself more time to get there or take a bus..................







    Good grief!

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