Kim's intimate gig

Published 9 Jun 2011 04:30 90 Comments

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AN EVENING of music ranging from popular easy-listening tracks to musical theatre favourites takes place later this month.

It will take place in the intimate, acoustic setting of the Tiffany Lounge at the Carnegie Hall and will feature the vocal talents of local singer Kim Shepherd.

Organisers say Kim, who is also a trained actress, is known for her ability to sing many different styles of music meaning "her unique vocal quality can't be easily bracketed".

She will be joined on this occasion by her colleagues from wedding band, Cut the Cake, Willie Logan and Alan Condie.

On keys, Alan has backed many professional acts, including entertainer Allan Stewart and jazz trumpeter, Kenny Ball.

Willie meanwhile is a former finalist in Guitar Magazine's 'Guitarist of the Year' competition.

Tickets for this performance, which takes place on Wednesday 15th June (8pm, doors open 7pm) are on sale at The Carnegie Hall box office

on 602302.

Tickets can also be bought from Third Base Records on 722554, priced £12.

This article appeared in Dunfermline Press 08 Jun 11

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wendy
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Jun 9, 15:37
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Slow on news again, yawn. Can you do a promotion for all the wee girls (and some boys) who have worked hard towards the Peter Pan production at Carnegie Hall next weekend. Nobody will have heard of them either but they aren't getting paid for their performances.

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ruetheday
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Jun 9, 16:02
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Intimate? Read, won't sell enough tickets to fill the theatre, so into the cafe you must go.

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GladNotToBeSoCynical
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Jun 9, 19:14
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Aren't those comments sad? It almost smacks of sour grapes to criticise Kim Shepherd just because her story has been included in the paper and the children's show has not.

While many might not have heard of the singer - and remember, everyone's got to start off somewhere - a few more will have now, thanks to that nicely supportive article.

Yet it doesn't require much research on the internet to discover that Kim isn't some untalented wannabe - it would appear that she has been serving her time on the amateur dramatics scene and with making hundreds of appearances with the band, Cut The Cake, and she has also undergone professional training. That, surely, entitles her to be earning some income from this gig.

It would also appear as if she has also retained a healthy sense of perspective by presenting her show in a venue she believes will best suit its style - and her realistic ticket-selling potential. And who knows, maybe one day we will see her name up there in lights and selling out the main auditorium.

Meantime, let's support all our local talent and wish Kim Shepherd and the performers with The Dance Bank who are presenting Peter Pan on 18 / 19 June, every success. Break a leg.

http://www.visitdunfermline.com/carnegiehall.php

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ruetheday
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Jun 9, 19:17
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Thanks from the promoter of the gig. Unbiased of course.

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balletmum
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Jun 9, 19:35
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Why shouldn't youngsters have the local press support them too? Are they not local too. Not just that but the parents have put a lot of time and effort into this. Why should it not be publicised too for free in the local press. I think the only sour grapes is because you have a small venue in a cafe and the youngsters have the theatre. Let's face it "former finalist in Guitar Magazine's 'Guitarist of the Year' competition." Aye, 14 years ago! Big wow. Bon Jovi watch out

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tapnjazz
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Jun 9, 19:54
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Glad..... you must be kims mum. have a nice sandwich.

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GladNotToBeSoCynical
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Jun 9, 20:23
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Sorry to disappoint the conspiracy theorists, but I have no family or business connection with Kim or the venue - so there is no bias or vested interest.

I'm just someone who has previously heard her seriously impressive vocals - and who believes she is an innocent party in all of this and so I can't work out why she is so unjustly coming under attack.

After all, it's not as if Kim decides what does and doesn't appear in the paper - it was hardly her decision not to include an article about the Peter Pan show.

Surely those who are aggrieved about any lack of coverage for the dance show should be taking this up with the editor of the Dunfermline Press.

This is the last from me, folks - I feel I've said my piece. But once again, I sincerely wish the Peter Pan production every success.

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ruetheday
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Jun 9, 20:44
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no-one said she wasn't innocent, just asking why not promote almost 100 potential dancers too at same venue, but filling the theatre. All unknowns, but Dance bank bringing in more revenue. as for the vocals of shephard, that's a matter of opinion.

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weeG
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Jun 9, 22:51
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Cannot believe the nastiness of some people!!!! As a parent of a Peter Pan performer and a friend of Kims I just dont get it. Say your point but don't knock other people. Get a life. Go Kim! I am also very 'glad not to be so cynical'.

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ex-pressreader
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Jun 9, 22:57
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How many more none stories can one paper publish. Wheelbarrow on road, wannabee in a cafe.

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Kims Pal Doug
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Jun 9, 23:20
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It never ceases to amaze me how some people can get really catty when they get a platform. I'd be surprised if the detractors above even genuinely care about the Peter Pan production - they just get their chance to have a go at an amazingly talented girl who has worked really hard and deserves her shot. And even if they DO have a genuine interest in the Peter Pan production then they are doing them no justice by the attitude they are showing here. They're just shaming them. How do you think Kim started out?

If you have a genuine problem with Peter Pan not being publicised appropriately then talk to the promoters, or the publisher - Don't take it out on Kim!!

And YES, I'm a friend of Kims and a fellow musician and it's an absolute pleasure sharing a stage with her when the occasions come around. I also wish the kids in the Peter Pan production every success. They could do a lot worse than follow Kims example!

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jack jones
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I too am a parent of a child in Peter Pan and I agree that the press should have given coverage to this show which only happens once every two years and a lot of hard work and time is put in by the children and I have to add the parents time too.

Why does an actress come singer warrant free publicity when she's only in a cafe and not a whole group of children who are dancing in the theatre. Have the press been given free tickets for the cafe?

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Kims Pal Doug
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Jun 10, 00:09
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As a parent myself I can understand your frustration at the perceived lack of press coverage for the event (I;m not from the area so I dunno what press it has had already) but for goodness sake aim your cannons in the right direction - either at the editor of Dunfermline Press or the Peter Pan promoters.

Just fast forward a few years...your child has done well in Peter Pan and has embarked on an artistical career. They finally have the chance to showcase their talents in a live review setting...would you want to see THEM berated for something that is completely outwith their control?? I don't think so.

Just cause you love your own kids doesn't mean you have to hate everyone elses.

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NoNeed
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Jun 10, 03:46
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@ex-pressreader, "How many more none stories can one paper publish?"...

...How many nasty comments can one person make, under a number of different pseudonyms?

Tragic.

Kim's successful career as a performer speaks for itself.

I'll be at her gig next week, just as I attend the shows and performances of lots of local groups and individuals -good luck to them all.

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sharondowie
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Jun 10, 06:35
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I am a parent of a child in Peter Pan too AND Kim's friendand I think It's sour grapes with some people!! Peter Pan WILL be in the Press next week as some shows show photos after the event and there is also another dance show on the same week 'Dance Fever' by The Dance studio and I don't hear them winging about no publicity!! Kim doesn't need publicity to sell tickets. :) Good luck to all performers next week. :) and unlike some people I'm not afraid to put my name to my posts :P Sharon

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martinbutler
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I'm very sad at these disgraceful comments regarding Kim. (and yes I am a friend!!) Perhaps these sad detractors should be looking at their own marketing strategy rather than rubbishing Kim. Did your organising committee take the trouble to send a press release to any newspaper. I doubt it because kids' theatre is very newsworthy. Al the best for the night, Kim, sorry I won't make it. All the bes to the Peter Pan kids too, bet you'll be great.

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Artssupporter
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Jun 10, 09:23
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I agree that the Dunfermline Press are utterly inconsistent in how they support all amateur theatre in West Fife and they pick and choose when and if they want to include your companies amateur event but what I fail to see is why any wrath for this omission is the fault of another performer. How utterly ridiculous, narrow-minded and spiteful.

I do not personally know Miss Shepherd nor do I have any connections to anyone in the Peter Pan production but I support the Arts in Fife.

Please use some common sense and courtesy and direct your disappointment and anger at the appropriate parties.

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Bill
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Jun 10, 09:35
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Just a thought but do we know if Dancebank have contacted the press and inquired about coverage? My niece tells me the show is next weekend anyway so maybe there's still time to publish something if they haven't got in touch. God knows how any of that is Kim's fault though.

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Justaminute
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Jun 10, 09:42
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Kim Shepherd is a professional performer. Her gig was featured on the page in the DP for which many other local professional performers are given space by the DP. Local amateurs are given space in other area of the paper the paper depending on the decision of the editor so perhaps you might be advised to direct your concerns there instead of the misplaced comments made towards an innocent performer just doing her job!

Perhaps also the venue should have helped to promote your performances and used their influence to get you a spot in the paper?!!!!

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kindofblue
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Jun 10, 10:14
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I would hope the Entertainment section in the Press is about promoting events that might be of interest to their readers. It would appear this lady is a talented (and not unattractive) singer and it looks like it could be a quality gig, may even pop along myself.

I don't see why this should be ditched in favour of a kids production of Peter Pan, likely to only be of interest to their parents and grand parents, and let's face it, most of them will only be turning up because they have to. You get the occasional good kids show but let's be honest, most of them are painful concoctions of poor dance routines and grim X-Factor inspired out of tune singing put on so that doting parents can delude themselves that their child has talent and the organisers can earn themselves a bit of cash.

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Molly
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Thanks for posting about this gig DP, it sounds right up my street.

As for all the other comments: it would be great to see the Dance Bank kids in the Press, too. They have a brilliant reputation and huge fanbase in Dunfermline. Have they contacted the DP?

Heres to supporting local talent, in whatever venue or mode they choose to express themselves. x

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Dorium
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Jun 10, 10:47
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RueTheDay, why so bitter?

Well done DP for backing local talent and local stars. I'll be glad to say 'Oh I saw her!' when she's performing on huge stages across the world in Broadway and beyond.

And in my opinion this singer is light years more talented than the other Dunfermline 'talent' auditioning for The X Factor - Mr Cabaret! YAWN!

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SuperDuperInjunction
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Jun 10, 12:24
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Saddened by some of these comments

Whether it's Kim Shepherd, The Dance Bank, 'Mr Cabaret' or Willie Logan, they're all local artists doing what they love and trying to share their passion with an audience and there is no need to attack any of them.

The press tries to support as many entertainment stories as it can. Send your press release to them and they will try to accommodate you.

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David Mutch
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OK - I'm going to stick my head above the parapet here and not hide behind a pseudonym (abeit a number of the above have been supportive).

Firstly, I will openly admit that Kim is a personal friend and I have worked with her on stage and in music collaborations over the years and several comments above strike me as being both unfair (and a little cowardly - see my comment of pseudonymity above!)

Kim started on the amateur stage at a very early age and it was quite apparent that she held a significant set of pipes - impressing both her peers and audiences alike. She quite rightly decided that a career in music was the way forward and for those who are in the business - you will know that a gig of whatever size pays the bills and (hopefully) leads to another. The Tiffany Lounge is ideal for an accoustic set - it is both intimate and realistic for the projected audience.

Lets not forget that it is the job of the PROMOTER to publicise a gig - not the venue. If Kim has been fortunate enough to capture column inches (and believe me I know how hard that is), it is all credit to those who run her publicity machine.

The Music industry is a fickle beast - there is a lot of talent out there all fighting for ticket sales and recognition. Let's applaud local talent - following in the footsteps of Barbara Dickson, Big Country, Nazareth and more recently The Daymin.

Each and every one of the above worked the circuit, built up a following and made the breakthrough in the end.

David J. Mutch

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TheVoiceOfReason
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People like you make me want to spew out profanities. As a journalist i can tell you that your 'kid’s production of peter pan' is much less deserving that a piece written on a very talented, up and coming young artist.

Yes it is very nice that your children have worked very hard and you have worked very hard blah blah. But "wendy, ruetheday, balletmum, expressreader, and jackjones" yup I’m calling you ALL out, take your head out of your ass and look at the big picture.... Kim is a talented, attractive and well known artist in the Dunfermline area. If you do not know of her do not assume that is the case for the rest of Dunfermline and certainly do not put her at the level of your children’s armature performance it is incredibly inaccurate and insulting.

Kim is not only extremely talented but a trained actress and is paid for her work. "balletmum" if you want to be rewarded for your hard work GET A JOB. Newspapers are not here to validate what you’re doing with your spare time. Oh and 'ruetheday' there is no question about Kim’s vocal talent her song choice might not be to your tastes but to question her vocal ability just goes to show that you are ignorant on the subject.

Now for 'why' the Dunfermline Press would report on this. For anybody that has seen her perform it is hard not to imagine Kim on the silver screen someday. Newspapers want to report on someone who is important in the community who is well known and who has a high possibly of being widely known in the near future. Your kids play will come and go. Will it be good? I very much doubt it. But for those who are not involved it is of no or little interest.

Oh and before you all show your incredible immaturity and ignorance, no I’m not Kim’s mum, I’m not Kim’s publicist, I don’t even have the pleasure of being this delightful young ladies friend. I am just someone who had previously seen Kim perform before, clicked on this article and saw these ridiculous comments.

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balletmum
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Jun 10, 15:04
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Hypocrite. "Will it be good? I very much doubt it. But for those who are not involved it is of no or little interest." Works both ways.

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martinbutler
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I'm actually quite disgusted by the slagging off that's going on here. I'm a new reader and I think that I may be a short lived one! (I also agree with David re pseudonyms).

Can everyone not just acknowledge that we're not comparing eggs with eggs. The ballet fraternity need to get this into their heads. Kim is a professional performer starting off on what could well be a stellar career and needs and deserves all the support possible from her local community including the press. Had Barbera Dickson or The Skids been given coverage, I doubt whether the scathing remarks above would have happened. Just because someone is at the beginning of their career doesn't make them less talented or less professional.

Likewise, a dance school does put in a tremendous amount of hard work into shows and do not deserve to be disparaged as they have here. There are a number of talented youngsters perform in these shows and I know of a number such who have gone on to bigger things.

As far as the press (any paper) is concerned, they need to be informed and encouraged to publish articles advertising shows. A press release is the obvious way, ideally coming up with some sort of an angle to make the piece interesting rather than same old, same old "we've got a show on next week and the kids/artist are/is great". If we, as amateurs, don't do this, then we've only ourselves to blame.

One way to guarantee no one will support your cause is to come on here and slag someone who has nothing to do with the paper off!!

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David Mutch
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@Balletmum - You pretty much reap what you sow when you decide to make sniping attacks on individuals - and i quote:

"I think the only sour grapes is because you have a small venue in a cafe and the youngsters have the theatre. Let's face it "former finalist in Guitar Magazine's 'Guitarist of the Year' competition." Aye, 14 years ago! Big wow. Bon Jovi watch out".

You pretty much opened the proverbial Pandora's Box with your first comment and cannot be surprised that what was (in my opinion) a reasonable and unbiased opinion from @TheVoiveofReason singled you (and others) out for justified comment on vitreous posting.

Facts:

- "Amateur" is from the Latin "For the love of" - many who perform in amateur productions have as much (and more) talent than those on a professional stage - they just don't get paid for it

- regardless of when Willie Logan featured in the "Guitarist of the year" listings - HE DID! Oscar winners and nominees list these achievements for a lifetime - why not he?

- I restate - it is the PROMOTER'S job to publicise ... @Balletmum and others need to realise this and use their undoubted pride and commitment to get on the phone and burn some show leather to get publicity.

- Kim is a professional performer - the listings she appears in are for PROFESSIONAL ACTS. Amateur companies have coverage as editorial allows.

- There are many West Fife titles to contact - please feel free to email me at david@davidmutch.com for a full list of papers and editorial contacts if you like.

- The DP only tend to cover a show on the week of it's run - Kim performs on a Wednesday so this week is the last opportunity to cover. DanceBank have next week.

The kids are at the start of their stage careers - many will probably move on to other pasttimes (it's the nature of children). BUT - don't cloud your pride and your kids' courage by slating another performer.

Move on ... nothing to see here (with the exception of the leading article).

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sharondowie
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well said David :)

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DunfermlineBoy
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Jeezo - I can't believe these comments. The Dunfermline Press is a local paper and this is a local story. Yeah there are bigger things happening but it's not in their remit to report on Libya or the European e-coli epidemic.

Get a grip guys!

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ThomasRichmond
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I am disgusted at the comments made on this forum. This up and coming talent should be supported and not shot down just because some kids production has not been featured in the paper. It is not Kim's fault that she was featured and the kids weren't so there is not need to slag off what I'm sure will be a very good concert.

I completely agree that any parents complaining about this should stop and think about if their child moves on and starts to get recognition like Kim and how you would feel if people were on an internet forum slagging your child off and demanding that other people should be featured.

Regardless of whether or not the kids production is featured you should not bring other people down.

It is disgusting that you will not support up and coming local talent just because your own children were not featured. Support local talent like Kim and be proud that she is giving the area some great talent and recognition.

P.s. I'm not afraid from my name to be seen.

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wendy
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Keep going

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papergirl
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It's always sad, when someone feels it necessary to detract from one person's talent to make another's seem more. I am not a lover of female vocalists on the whole, in fact, I could count on one hand those I can enjoy listening to - but I could listen to Kim all day. It takes dedication and staying power to get there - let's see how many of the 'Peter Pan' kids are still hanging in there a few years down the line. The ones that are, might have something special too.

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@ balletmum. How dare you come on here and slag off a not just a talented young lady, but also a fabulous ordinary hard working girl who is also someones child. If your a 'mother' then you ought to be ashamed of youself!! Disgusted!!! Fee

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David Mutch
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@balletmum ... I note you are still using your pseudonym - come clean and declare yourself - most of us have!!!

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annoyed of Scotland
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Kim is not professional - she hasn't trained for 4 years like many of us and although she is good she'll never break the west end... there are hundreds of girls out there who have taken the risk to move to London and to 'live the dream' and although Kim is good... they are better. I have no doubt that she has been told that she is good, that people praise her for being good but don't all our friends and family? Lets's stop living in this X-Factor 'instant' fame world. To keep your career you need to train. Go to Drama school Kim and deserve your concert and press coverage. I wish all her the best for her concert but that's all she is... a concert singer... i'll head to the pub and listen to some karaoke... for free...

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HollieWegnerJaszkin
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Like David, Martin, Fee and everyone else on here that is brave enough to use their real name, I will stick my head above the parapet and do the same. Hiding behind screen-names to insult and belittle other performers is utterly shameful and those responsible should be ashamed. I know Kim personally, and not only is she talented, she's also absolutely lovely and does NOT deserve this disgusting diatribe from a bunch of losers like those that have shown their teeth on this forum. And before you all fire in and have a go at me, I know how the press works as I am professionally involved in arts marketing: the press only publish the stories that a) they are given and b) are interesting to a wider readership. Sorry, ballet mothers, but your show is just not interesting to anyone other than mums, dads, grannies etc, as someone else has already said. Did somebody from the Dance Bank send in a press release? Jealousy of other peoples's coverage will not solve your problem. Leave Kim alone, she has done nothing wrong, and should be getting support from the public, not abuse. She is a fantastic singer and deserves a chance.

Oh and by the way, I also trained at the Dance Bank in my youth and still have regular professional contact with the school. Rhona is a lovely lady, and would be horrified that people like balletmum, wendy and jack jones are on here speaking on behalf of her school, dragging her hard-earned reputation through the dirt on a public forum. Rhona does not deserve that, and neither does Kim. The Dance Studio have a show on next week, but we don't see them on here mouthing off that Kim is being written about rather than their show. If you have nothing supportive to say about local talent, keep your ill-informed opinions to yourselves.

Keep your chin up Kim, you're so much better than all these sour-grape eaters hiding behind fake screen names. You're gonna be amazing!

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Ledge
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@Annoyed. Kim is trained, and she is a professional. Kim has a Diploma in Musical Theatre and has earned a living from singing and performing for several years now.

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@Ledge Kim isn't trained, she's got an HND from a college! That doesn't make you trained. It's a stepping stone to training! Everyone in the West End has worked years at accredited Drama Schools across the country to get where they have, everyone has struggled and in this recession we are all finding it hard to get work. I have worked in the West End on 4 different productions, worked with NTS and now I'm working in a pub... Kim has a nice voice, it isn't the best I've heard, it's just nice. If she was to do this 'intimate' gig down in London at Pizza in the park or somewhere else... she wouldn't sell any tickets! Kim if you read this, I'm not getting at you I'm just telling you if you want do it then do it, do a Post Grad in Musical Theatre, move to London. Your backlash wouldn't have happened if you had credits behind you... sometimes honesty hurts... but welcome to the industry!

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I couldn't agree more with all the supporting comments. It is a shame that Peter pan hasn't been promoted in the press but how is that Kim shepherds fault?? I have been to previous performances and she is a very talented individual who deserves this gig and deserves support from everyone. All you bitter people out there, how would you feel if we started slagging off the cast of Peter pan? And instead of moaning, why don't you contact the press and actually so something about getting Peter pan publicised?

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@annoyedinscotland

For someone who apparently has a lot of experience of the west end what you are inferring is very inaccurate.

How dare you make assumptions about a talented young girl just because your dreams did not come true and you are now working in a pub?

Yes you may have seen girls with better voices but being a journalist I have interviewed many young ladies in the West End that are far inferior to Kim. I also know many that have not gone to a private drama schools and have been very successful. It is widely acknowledged that experience in the arts is appreciated over a 3-year private drama course.

Genuine talent cannot be taught. I have heard many directors claim that drama school can ruin a raw talent.

Just because you could not make money in this industry do not drag down someone else to you bitter and jealous level.

Your opinion is not realistic it's bias to someone who could not make a career in the west end and gave up.

Yes breaking into the entertainment industry is hard but just because it is difficult it does not mean that it can't be done.

So why don’t you go back to polishing glasses an pouring pints instead of trying to pull other people down.

Pathetic.

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Firstly I've not given up lol secondly I'm out of work as 90% of the industry and auditioning at least once a week. Finally you haven't answered my question re would Kim sell down here like many of us who have earnt our credits? answer is no... Actually Kim if reading this... Do it and prove me right.

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salami man 5000
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Why don't we all just move to London right now and have a massive orgy? What do you say?

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KirstyMcLaren
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Wow. Speechless.

Anyway, back to the point in hand, good luck with your show Kim. I'm sure it'll be cracking, and I'm only sorry I can't make it through to see you singing your wee heart out and smiling through this nonsense. Just you do what you love doing, and ignore all of this hoo-ha. Silly besoms.

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@annoyedofscotland

How do you know that Kim does not audition more than that? You just assume that because her gig in Dunfermline she is a small time girl who isn't doing auditions elsewhere?

And no maybe she would not sell tickets for her gig in London but would the Beatles when they first started out? No. Artists start by playing in their hometown and gain recognition and fans. Maybe this is where you have been going wrong.

It is perseverance, talent and most importantly who you know in the entertainment business that makes a star and all of these qualities trumps your pretentious private school credits.

It is laughable that you are trying to bestow wisdom to anyone, and if Kim were reading this I would advise her not to listen or take any notice of someone who has not made it in the entertainment business and look to those who have for advice, of which I’m very sure she has already done.

That’s all from me. I just felt compelled to answer to this apparently extremely knowledgeable insider on how the West End is run. I am sure they have garnered plenty of knowledge from watching Andrew Lloyd Webber’s reality shows on the TV in their pub.

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bunny
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@annoyedofscotland

Ramin Karimloo. The Phantom. Not trained.

Hope Kim does make it and proves you wrong. She's got the drive and the ability to go all the way.

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annoyedofscotland
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I love the fact that because i am out of work you presume i haven't made it. I've worked with the national theatre and worked in the west end for 4 years.... After going to drama school... Full time... Monday to Friday 9 till 9 most nights... Not 2 and a half days a week or however long it is at college. I'm going to justify myself any more and wish Kim all the best in what is a hard industry... P.s. @Bunny I'll give you that one.... But he's great and trained in classical singing

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why doesnt she go on xfactor then?? thats where real talent is discovered

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AliceHarvey
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@Annoyedofscotland Sweetheart people that are out of work after only working in four shows have not made it.... if you had you wouldn't need extra work in a pub

[41] "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? [42] How can you say to your brother, `Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Don't bring others down when you have you own problems.

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Jill Anderson
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Xfactor...Real talent....Good one! @local girl get down the comedy club

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local girl
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who let Alice out of the looney bin?

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Alex Munro
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The stupid person that gave birth to you?

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local girl
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@ jill

how about britains got talent then?

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local girl
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@ alex

thats not a nice thing to say about your wife

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annoyedofscotland
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Alice... It's called paying the bills and stop going stir crazy... I think you'll find a lot of Jobbing actors work in bars, call centres, shops when they aren't working. You clearly have no idea about the industry.

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wendy
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Goood grief. Well that worked much better than I anticipated. I only expected a couple of responses from other supportive mums of wee ones. Well done everybody. The Peter Pan performance has now had some press coverage at least and folk reading about it. Enjoy the show boys and girls.

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Danny
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@annoyedofscotland

Or they could do local gigs and showcase their talent.

Your knowledge of 'the industry' seems to be not much more than your opinion. Everyones experiance is different

You clearly have no idea what it means to be a nice person

Oh and well said @alice take a look at your own career before having a go at someone else. Nothing gives you the right to judge others. Your a nasty piece of work.

@wendy i think out of over 50 comments under 10 were about the kids show... so maybe get of your lazy computer loving ass and phone the dunfermline press yourself.

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To all the doubters,

You are all pathetic,as a local paper the dunfermline press does a fantastic job in giving press to the local people, performers and groups that need it. If it is either a local long standing amateur company or a local girl who has decided that singing is the route she has decided to take then surely we should be doing as much as we can to help these people, there would be a huge outcry If a company like rosyth or kelty amateur musical were to shut due to lack of support, well where do you think the people like Kim shepherd start there trade and learn some of the important skills that is needed. As for the person who is bitter about the lack of advertising done for Peter pan there I still time, and am sure that these negative people would feel completely different if it was there du

Daughter trying to make a name for herself. I think everyone should be supporting all the local people and I for one will be there to offer my support to Kim on the night.

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David Mutch
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@annoyedofscotland - you sound very bitter. Be proud of your training and the fact you have secured work in the West End. That in itself is a major feat and one which you quite rightly shout about.

I think it is time this thread was drawn to a close (and I mean a close ... not just dark for while!!).

Hopefully I can end it with the words from a great musical:

DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING?

David J. Mutch

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niceone
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Doh! work it out danny, how many people have been on the site all told. Including you too, sucker.

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kindofblue
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Can't believe this thread is still running, makes interesting reading and would presume:

Balletmum - overprotective and bitter parent of likely obnoxious and untalented daughter

Jack Jones - as above but presumably male

Thevoiceofreason - journalist? really? hopefully not one who gets paid for writing, learn some grammar for gods sake

Dorium, martinbutler, davidmutch, papergirl, HollieWegnerJaszkin - Groupies nobody would want

My personal favourite though is annoyedofscotland. An out of work performer preaching about what constitutes a professional, "I've had 4 years training to be out of work and she's only had 1" Think I might be able to get a sit com out of this page and yes annoyedofscotland you can audition for a role, it will require you to play an especially bitter and resentful out of work performer, think you could manage that?

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telesales
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And your point, kindofblue, is? Thought not. Local sad **** with as much point as a broken penci.l

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annoyed of Scotland
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Jun 12, 01:43
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@David we're all a bit bitter - our industry has been taken over by celebrities, song contest winners and untrained performers... I wouldn't get a job as a lawyer without training! You go into any theatre and everyone says the same.

@Kindofblue ... many thanks but I think it will make a crap sitcom so i'll give it a miss! I turn down cruise ships... i'm a but picky in what I do... otherwise i'll end up back in my hometown doing concerts.

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kindofblue
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Hey annoyed of Scotland, glad to hear you have so much work to turn down, and all those celebrities you feel are taking your work, are they the same ones helping to fill otherwise empty theatres for the people who are in work? Guess you wouldn't do panto either as that is akin to a crusie ship on land with celebrities as well - what a terrifying prospect for someone so well trained. But you are being a bit hard on yourself, I'm sure you've been described as many things but a 'But Picky' is that one of your London terms fora brown noser?

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Feep
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Jun 12, 11:52
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Talent comes from with in!!! Your born with it!!! Experience is the key!!! All the certificates in the world does not make you a performer!!! So @ annoyedof scotland, take all your 'Diploma' And shove it were the sun don't shine!!!!!

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elainepaige
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Who is Mutch-ado-about-nothing anyway? Another one step up from street busker ie cafe booking? Leave annoyedofscotland alone and save your sour grapes for your luvvie cronies.

PS You are certainly right about "you reap what you sow". You should heed that one yourself.

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martinbutler
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Hmm elainepaige. Another person hiding behind an alias eh. If you aren't brave enough to use your own name, why should anyone be interested in your opinion?

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elainepaige
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Just because you have your name showing, what does it mean? I don't know you from Adam. If I write Samantha Johnson does that make you feel better and me braver. No I thought not. It is your post that is useless. Who says my name is not Elaine Paige. You? Who are you anyway? Another wannabee busker?

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martinbutler
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Elainepaige, do you have a point to make on the subject, or do you just get off on having a pop at people who do?

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elainepaige
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Ditto

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martinbutler
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Read the thread.

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annoyedofscotland
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My cv and the work i gain is important to me. I don't want to do cruise ships and i love pantomime season. My work is everything to me and I'm honoured to work with some amazing people. I have a friend working with a celebrity just now... Should so said celebrity have been given role? probably not... She can't sing... Her understudy is far better. You go into any theatre across through country and we are all sayinthe same thing. I'm not hiding behind anything Martin. I'm annoyed and from Scotland. My real name is clare. I trained at mountview and know what I'm talking about... Bitter? yes... Why? my industry is a mess...

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annoyedofpubwork
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@annoyedofscotland Are you trained in pub work aswell?

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Peterplectrumpickeda
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I think it's hilarious and sad at the same time. All the moaners have done is discredit their own causes whilst giving an entertaining backdrop for Ms Shepherds so called 'non event by a nobody' into a concert worth poking a head into ... even if just for curiosity or to spite the doubters. If there's local talent to support and nurture, do it. I wish both events all the best.

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Daniel Gallagher
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He isn't even trained in pub work. All he has is a health and safety certificate from Carnegie College. How dare he work in a pub when there are people like me that have trained properly!? I have worked in London, I don't think he'd survive there. So annoying that the industry has been taken over by amateurs.

Oh, anyone can do whatever they want with their lives? People are entitled to be ambitious regardless of background and what qualifications they have? They should be able to go about this without being criticised for trying? Oops, didn't realise sorry. Take it all back.

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Lesley Gudgeon
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Those who are taking umbrage at this young ladys press coverage and making personal attacks should be utterly ashamed of themselves. I do not care who you are or what you do, IT IS shameful behaviour and not that befitting any child, adult or older person especially when the young lady in question has had the maturity and dignity to remain silent. I am a great believer that what goes around comes around and I would be quite happy to meet, in person, anyone who would like to challenge my veiwpoint on the subject. Live and let live.

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David Mutch
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@elainepaige - why the attack on me? Why the attack on Kim? What has Martin done to you? What has the theatre community done to you?

Why the vitriolic diatribe at all?

I hope I don't know you - and if I do ... feel free to email me on david@davidmutch.com - I will happily send my mobile number to you and we can discuss what irks you about us "luvvies" - and me in particular, given your comments - with a chat off line.

I have no sour grapes - why would I? - I'm well aware of the issues facing the industry ongoing and if you read my message to "annoyed" you will clearly see that.

This thread has well and truly gone off thread and has now become a free for all fire-fight - hi-jacking a thread to throw a grenade in serves no purpose.

I am sure the real Ms Paige would be horrified at you using her name as a front for bileous outbursts - you obvious do not "Know her so well".

I await your email with interest.

DJ Mutch

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sharondowie
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AGAIN well said David :)

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martinbutler
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Jun 14, 18:42
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Hmm. Kim's sold out. 'nuff said!

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Visit Dunfermline
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Jun 14, 19:41
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Just noticed that Kim's forthcoming concert has sold out! I cannot help but think the saying."any press is good press" rings very true here. Isn't it ironic that those who are negative and bitter are probably responsible for this success. Fantastic.

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goesaround
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Jun 14, 20:04
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Hardly a fantastic achievement selling 12 tickets and a sandwich.

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David Mutch
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Jun 14, 20:28
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the words ... back and fired spring to mind - well done Kim.

As a groupie "nobody would want", one who will "reap what they sow" and definitely "Mutch ado about nothing" maybe I'm not so daft after all - as with my fellow, albeit partisan, but non-judgemental band of "luvvies".

Anonymous critics and bile-mongers above take note ... your energies would have been much better spent publicising your own show to those who may have covered it with focussed targetting.

All the above has done is make you look very foolish, cast your show and respected dance company in a very poor light and potentially damage its good name.

I sincerely hope you are proud of yourselves.

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kindofblue
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Hey David Mutch - ever thought about taking Holy Orders, you do a beautiful sermon.

Annoyed of Scotland, stop the barbed comments and think about things for just a second. Celebrities in shows. Take Martine McCutcheon in My Fair Lady as an example. Only one role in a large cast, the cast knew she wasn't there on merit, she knew that and most importantly the audience knew it, it didn't matter to them and her involvement saw the show run for longer and charge better ticket prices to pay your colleagues. The celebrities are not the problem, we live at a time where fame is more prized than talent.

Training - Don't get so hung up about this, training is no compensation for experience and talent, what on earth do you do at drama school for 4 years (except pay them hefty fees).

Your industry is not a mess, it's bigger an more international than it has ever been, you may not like it and it may not be particularly good to you but it is undoubtedly successful.

Well done Kim Shepherd on selling out this show, make sure you publicise your next one on here, passionate debate and mud-slinging about a small gig like this has been hilarious.

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Enigmama
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Jun 16, 12:42
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Can this paper's forum get anymore childish?

A local paper, promoting a local singer - what a terrible thing to do!!

Who cares where the venue is, there are many people who will never have the same opportunity but who would loved to have been given a chance, so good luck to her!

I also have 2 children who will be appearing in "Peter Pan" over the weekend and would like to wish all involved the very best.

Not all parents of children in this show have the same narrow viewpoint as displayed earlier.

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Lesley Gudgeon
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I so enjoyed Kim’s performance last night in Tiffany's - I hope she does more intimate performances like this in the future so others can experience her amazing vocals. I loved the varied selection of songs, some which I knew and some I did not but I enjoyed every one of them. Willie Logan and Alan Condie were perfect accompaniment, in particular Willies own compositions. I look forward to witnessing this amazing talent again, I hope, in the not too distant future.

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JAX-AnnoyedFaeFife
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Can you make up your mind if are 'annoyed in scotland' OR 'annoyed of scotland' as you seem to have 2 names but same rant?? Or maybe you are 2 faced hence the titles. (that's not a question BTW) Perhaps you should try 'annoyed at scotland' instead?.............after all the talent up here is doing well............."An Audience With Kim Shepherd".................. SOLD OUT! When is it Karaoke night in your pub? If i'm in the area put me down for my party piece...."I would Walk 500 miles".......Da ra da da...Da ra da da!!!!!

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kindofblue
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Didn't manage to make it to this gig in the end, looks like I wouldn't have got in anyway so decided to have a lsiten to her on her website, I presume kim-shepherd.co.uk is her website. Quite nice voice, not a great deal of character to it and a bit uneven through her range and tuning isn't always pristine but I've heard many worse voices in professional shows and gigs, promising i'd say.

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Ex Pat Par
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Jun 20, 02:14
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One thing I have learned reading through these wonderful comments is that Dunfermline is full of very bitter (I imagine very lonely) people.

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sharondowie
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Jun 20, 06:32
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well Kim Shepherd SOLD OUT and more people looking for tickets :) and 4 Peter Pan performances 99% full :) and 'Ballet mum' I must have met you at some point over the weekend but no-one would own up to being you or knowing you!!!!!!!

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x...sophy...x
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Lol at How 'BalletMum' Hasn't Been Back On Here ;)

And I Am In 7 Dances In Peter Pan......Just Saying :P

Luv Sophy xxxxxxxxx

;P

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