Council ditches plans for travellers site in village
CONTROVERSIAL plans for a travellers' stopover site at Cairneyhill have finally been abandoned by Fife Council after a storm of protests.
Local MSP and councillor Bill Walker welcomed the decision but slammed the handling of the whole affair as a "wasteful fiasco".
However, the council's decision to ditch the plan was not made because of the local outcry over a lack of consultation but because the landowners did not want to proceed.
Councillor Alice McGarry, chair of the council's gypsy travellers working group, explained, "I think initially it was thought the land was owned by the council but it was only leased.
"In the end, the landowners, Wemyss Estates, did not want the travellers' site to go ahead.
"We could have gone down the compulsory purchase route but that could have taken years.
"So as far as Cairneyhill is concerned that's it although it's not to say the travellers won't come back there.
"That's been a regular stop for them but it will be down to the landowners to take action if they do."
Mrs McGarry's SNP colleague, Mr Walker, said, "This is actually a good decision as access, egress to and from the proposed site was very dangerous but it should never have got this far.
"Surely council officers should have ascertained long before now whether the ground would have been available.
"A huge amount of public upset and cost has been caused in this whole matter which simply confirms my previous request to Fife Council chief executive Ronnie Hinds for an urgent inquiry into the manner that this entire issue was handled by council officers."
Mr Walker said he had been involved "in a protracted exchange, principally over the fact that the person around whom my complaints were made was the very person asked to carry out the investigation".
He continued, "Also, although Mr Hinds admits that things 'could have been done better', he sees no grounds for any disciplinary steps to be taken against any council officer.
"In my opinion, this is all not good enough and is mirrored in a number of other decisions and projects across Fife.
"We need to ensure that officers, paid for by taxpayers, carry out the wishes of democratically elected councillors in a clear and transparent manner.
"There is much to be done. I regret that this wasteful fiasco over the proposed Cairneyhill gypsy travellers' stop-over site demonstrates just how much."
Another critic of the plan has been Lib Dem councillor Gerry McMullan, who had highlighted the dangers of having a site on a zig-zag bend in the middle of traffic lights.
He said, "I'm delighted at this news.
"I was against any proposal to establish a site so close to the village.
"It was taking away part of the core path system of Fife and was a very dangerous area for many reasons, especially the transportation issues."
He added, "I brought it to the attention of many of my colleagues and officers that there were concerning anomalies with the consultation process and I hope lessons have now been learned.
"I'm delighted for the communities of Cairneyhill, Torryburn and Crombie. The residents can now get back to once more using the area for walking their dogs, cycling and general exercise in complete safety."
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Torryjim
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Nov 4, 10:42
Report commentGood news at last thank you!
Don't see though how Ms McGarry makes 2 visits classify the site as a regular stop over though. Is this her trying to cover her backside perhaps.
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triskel
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Nov 4, 12:10
Report commentBuild your walls high! Lock your doors! Don't go out! Fret with anxiety! You're free!
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Route66
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Nov 4, 13:08
Report commentAgree with Torriejim re Alice Mcgarry's comments about this having history as a stop-over site. This is utter nonsense, but fitted GTWG's flawed plans. This group of councillors/council officers seem to have damaged their own credibility and any other committee they sit on.
Save us voting them out next year!
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Torryjim
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Nov 4, 14:40
Report commentOh triskel what lovely German you express. I suspect you are pointing the child abuse accusations at the wrong group however.
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triskel
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Nov 4, 21:12
Report commentChild abuse? Wrong group? Maybe you took my metaphor too literally. Nevermind.
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NotHappyJan
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Nov 4, 22:12
Report commentSend them all triskels way. They will fit right in socially and intellectually.
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Blackadder
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Nov 4, 22:35
Report commentThat's a bit of an insult to the travellers. I'm sure the gypsies have far more friends than triskell no pals.
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Torryjim
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Nov 5, 22:11
Report commenttriskel and others. As you can see, I'm a newbie. I've no prejudices, and indeed, hold no blame on any group for anything that cannot be proven. We do know that travellers (as opposed to gypsies) do work hard on just that - being a respectable contributing sector of society. I'm sure there are many readers that will be aware of the background and ongoing contribution to commercial society that some members of the travelling community make, one in particular in Fife that I know of.
That aside, the specific issue here was the potential for longer term developement of a community (or even a small village) at a busy intersection, beside an important rail channel and adjacent to managed woodland that would have resulted in access and enjoyment for the wider public being compromised. As well as that, the land was never Fife Councils to make decisions on to begin with.
I think you have been led astray, and been disappointed at the prospect of a nice place to stay being withdrawn, and well, that's bad luck.
As for the other comments in your post, perhaps that's how some feel, but around here, I think we're all pretty secure thanks.
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Nov 5, 23:04
Report commentHypocrite triskell strikes again. You slur Stuartggray based on one sentence but bellyache when assumptions are made about yourself following your rants. You are not the victim so stop playing so.
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triskel
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Report commentYeah, that's right. As far as militarism, war and capitalist exploitation goes.....your lips are sealed. You can't argue with that. Dumb obedience. There is a big difference between Rosyth and illegal wars fought in the name of the british public for big business and the landed gentry.
You are another one with the "no friends" obsession. Is that the worst you can say to someone? They are all alone in the world? Primary school bullies to military torturers use that tactic. Isolate people. Dehumanise them. Threaten them. Throw in the odd touch of humanity. Keep up the good work. Your country needs you!
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Nov 8, 13:53
Report commentThat's a pertinent comment about an impertinent person bicyclebob! What a shame you can't fight your own battles!
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Report comment@leksirt are you a Jesus freak? You come across like you are?
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Report commentsupersonic-you got the one word right,and it aint jesus
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Report commentlesksirt is triskel reversed! An ultra left wing extremist whi has had his account suspended. Watch this space because leksirt is next....lol
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Report commentCalling my posts "extreme left wing rubbish" just means you don't want to listen to the truth and do not have a counter argument. It means you are giving people more clues about the state of your own head than the content of my posts. Intimidating people into silence or ignoring them doesn't make you a moral person! If anybody but a bigotted old lady or a bunch of thugs read my posts they would think I was being honest and sensible. Does the fact that you can only pour vitriol and scorn on my ideas not shame you? Do you not realise how ugly your statements about me will appear to people in general?
Good luck in having me banned.....you CAN'T ban ideas though. You CAN'T go into people's brains and stop them thinking and feeling; much as you would like to. Instead of the hate and the bile what about some ideas of your own? Got any?
Go and read my posts on the aircraft carrier forum again and apart from not liking them and finding some of the concepts new to you tell me exactly what it is that is wrong with them in your opinion? Remember that name calling and ignoring don't count as considered opinion, they are the mark of the brute.
I'm ULTRA left wing now? Ooo la la! Fife was one of the last places to stop burning witches. You LOVE beating up "lonely" people for some reason. Ever wondered why?
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Report commentYou must never have met a socialist before supersonic. Ask NotHappyJan what they're like. She absolutely loathes them. She reckons she'd vomit in my presence. Not much of an argument against Socialism though. What were the jesus freaks that you met like?
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Report commentWould you describe yourself as an Anti-Socialist NotHappyJan?
Communism in Russia never had a chance to grow because after the Russian Revolution a hundred years ago Russia had 145 capitalist/monarchist countries waging clandestine warfare against it, subverting it economically and destabilising it. No wonder it turned out warped. What do you find so abhorent about Communism NotHappyJan? It is, after all, about sharing skills and resources in supportive communities. What's wrong with that? Russia developed under Josef Stalin like a battered and abused child after the assaults that capitalism had made on it. Now that capitalism dominates the world MILLIONS are suffering, MILLIONS are running around with no shoes on their feet surviving on 75 pence a day. This state of affairs is kept in place by our military, among others, persistantly destabilsing the developing countries and assassinating anyone who supports justice and equality. These facts are all verifiable. How can you justify that? America along with it's European and Zionist allies have an enormous debt to pay to Russia, China, Africa, Asia and the Muslim/Arab world.
If you had any understanding of karma you would have EVERY reason to be not happy Jan. The debt we owe to the world is enormous. By ignoring what I am saying and refusing to accept the truth you are only increasing the contempt people have for this nation.
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Report commentMillions of people in this country are against war! How long do you think you can continue to ignore that fact? Intimidating people into silence and ignoring justified criticism of state behaviour is childish.
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Report commentA spectre is haunting europe,the spectre of communism.Is that right triskel
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Report commentwhats with this 'travellers' crap?? they have been and always will be Gypsies.
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Report commentsomeone tell davenicky,what a fellow traveller is,before they make a bigger fool of themselves
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Report commenttriskel-which revolutionary was known as the pen
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Report commentMore childish nonsense from the usual suspects.
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Report commentLOL lets not go there. Looks like leksirt has been totally rmoved..... Brick the .... is next!
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Report commenttriskel which russian commander was called the beatle
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Report commenthere is one for you.Which leader had a dog called blondie
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